Gospel Conversations

Exploring the weekly Gospel

 As a new initiative in 2021, the Diocesan Ministry Educator is engaging with panels of biblical thinkers in conversations about forthcoming Gospel readings. 

These are free-flowing conversations, with the aim of floating and teasing out ideas and responses to the weekly passage,
not as an academic exercise but as a creative dance with the text and the Spirit who enlivens the text for us. We hope they will spark some ideas for those who are preparing sermons, but also that they will be used by people to think about the Sunday readings during the week.

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This week we have a vibrant discussion around Jesus as the Bread of Life. Our Gillian Townsley and John Franklin are joined by Lisa Emerson from Massey University as they dig into what Jesus might have meant in this “I Am” statement, and the many ways in which it can shape our lives today.

This week we’re discussing the optional readings for the coming Sunday, when we celebrate James and John. What does the story in Matt 20:20-28 tell us about success, service and sainthood? Join Michael as he talks it over with +Kelvin Wright, Judy Ringland, Anne van Gend and Judy’s cat.

+Steve, Gillian and Alec tackle rather a difficult gospel passage together. What do we do with the story of John the Baptist being beheaded? Where is the good news in this “gospel of two halves” and who do we say Jesus is?


David Tombs joins us from the University of Otago as he, Bishop Kelvin, Trish Franklin and Michael engage in a lively and varied discussion of Mark 6:1-13. This conversation is crammed with insights into the incarnation, mission, and finding God in the ordinary people and things of our lives.

John Graveston (Diocesan Child, Youth and Family Educator), Ben Ong, Mona Tavakoli, and Sam Williams join together to discuss women in the Bible, healing, and faith, in this “Ordinary Sunday 13” gospel reading, Mark 5:21-43. 

Michael, Alec Clark and Katie Marcar are joined by a delightful visiting contributor from Brisbane, Fiona Hammond, to discuss storms and boats and crossing over to the other side, in this “Ordinary Sunday 12” gospel reading, Mark 4:35-41.

This week we re-enter “Ordinary time”, and Tony, Gillian and Anne thoroughly enjoy themselves as they toss around ideas about mustard seeds and seed-scattering, kereru and ploughers – and some bonus Martin Luther. The Gospel is Mark 4:26-34 for Ordinary Sunday 11.

We’ve reached Pentecost! This week Michael hosts a discussion with Gillian Townsley (St Hilda’s and Otago University); Jenny Dawson (a past ministry educator and present spiritual director from Wellington Diocese) and Alec Clark (well known to all in our diocese as a past DME). Together they start to untangle some of the complexities of John’s story of the coming of the Spirit.

Chris Holmes returns, and is joined by both John and Trish Franklin to talk about John 3:1-17. The focus was on the gospel passage rather than delving directly into the mysteries of the Trinity! Apologies for the heavy editing – youtube restricts us to 15 minutes and there was clearly lots to talk about on this passage.

In a slightly different Gospel Conversation, Bishop Kelvin Wright, the Rev’d Jan Clark and the Rev’d Claire Brown join Michael to talk about the significance of Te Pouhere Sunday to the Anglican Church of Aotearoa New Zealand and Polynesia. Drawing on all four gospel readings suggested for this Sunday, they explore what the Bible may be urging us towards in terms of our Tikanga relationships, and what this unique way of being can offer the world.

For the past few Sundays we have been studying the final teaching Jesus gave his disciples before he was betrayed. This week’s conversation is around John 17: 6-19, where Jesus is praying for his disciples, and (as we discover next week) for us as well. Michael Godfrey speaks with Anne van Gend (Diocesan Community Ministry Enabler), Judy Ringland Stewart (lay minister, Port Chalmers Parish) and Rev’d Gray Griffith-Smith (Vicar of Gore Parish). 

In this Gospel Conversation for Easter 6, the Diocesan Ministry Educator Michael Godfrey is joined by Bishop Steve Benford, Katie Marcar (University of Otago New Testament lecturer) and Steve Mitchell (Pilot and Businessperson, Invercargill). The conversation is on John 15: 9-17 exploring what it might mean to be the True Vine… on being loved and loving each other. Who would have thought that God wants to be our friend….?!

In this Gospel Conversation for Easter 5, the Diocesan Ministry Educator Michael Godfrey is joined by Chris Holmes, University of Otago Theology Department, Trish Franklin, an Educator at Otago Polytechnic and Jonathan Wood, landscape design gardener from Dunedin as they talk about John 15:1-8 and what it means to be connected to the vine.

In this Gospel Conversation for Easter 4, the Diocesan Ministry Educator is joined by Dr Gillian Townsley (chaplain at St Hilda’s School), the Rev’d Vivienne Galletly (hospital chaplain) and the Rev’d Richard Johnson (Dean for Rural Ministry). They discuss John 10:11-18 where Jesus explores imagery surrounding shepherds, sheep, wolves and hired hands. 

In the second of these the Diocesan Ministry Educator converses with Bishop Kelvin Wright, Anne Van Gend (Diocesan Community ministry Enabler) and Gary Griffith-Smith (Vicar of Gore Parish) around Luke 24: 36-48, the final appearance of Jesus to the disciples  (according to Luke) before he was taken up into heaven. 

In the first of these the Diocesan Ministry Educator converses with Katie Marcar (Otago University Programme and All Saints’, North Dunedin), Tony Martin (St Paul’s Cathedral and Emergency Management Otago) and Richard Johnson (Dean for Rural Ministry and Interim Priest, Winton) as they turn their eyes on the Risen Jesus as he encounters St Thomas and each of us in an upper room in Jerusalem (John 20: 19-31).